Monday, January 07, 2013

Hagel... um yeah... Hagel....

So, the President is going to nominate former Nebraska Senator Chuck Hagel for Secretary of Defense, which is to say... an interesting choice to say the least. Hagel managed to get himself into trouble with pretty much everyone down the stretch of his career in the Senate. Between making remarks about a Jewish Lobby, making anti-gay remarks, as well as being fairly critical of the military strategy in Iraq, Hagel was able to alienate himself from... well... just about everyone.

Obviously most relevant to his position as Secretary of State was his criticism to the war efforts in Iraq. As a general rule, I am a fond believer that once Politicians make a determination that we need to engage in military efforts, it's their job to get out of the way and let the military do their jobs. Like many, he concluded that the "surge efforts" were a waste of effort and destined to fail, advocating that we instead pull out of Iraq. Obviously, history shows that the surge worked well, we did not fail, and pulling out of Iraq when critics advocated doing so... would have been disaster.  But as we often know in politics, being right or wrong about something isn't as important as being on the right or wrong "side" of an argument.

I look for opposition to Hagel from anyone who is highly supportive of Israel, big into gay rights, and even some opposition from hard line military folks on the right. Whether that opposition is strong enough to block his nomination remains to be seen.

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Commonsense said...

In other words, just about everybody.

But lets face it. Hagel is perfect person to implement Obama's policy on nation security and foreign relations.

Hagel's hostility towards Israel perfectly reflect administration policy.

Grammarian James said...

Hostility -- singular.
Reflect(s) -- should be singular.

hb said...

The President should be able to choose who he wants. Advise and consent does not mean they get to pick the nominee. This is not a life time appointment. We could get into Republican hypocrisy on this. But this is the President's choice.

Commonsense said...

Advise and consent does not mean they get to pick the nominee.

No it means the senate determines his fitness for office.

Obama doesn't get to appoint an unqualified person simply because he's a crony.

Reasonable James said...

Reasonable James said...
I like the following comment of mine so much I decided to repeat it here, though it has nothing to do with this thread.

THANK YOU, Commensa, for giving us the following!
__________________

My goodness, according to a post of Commensa's I obviously get support for my position on guns, a position that I have argued for a very long time -- support from an unexpected source.

Sounds like Justice Scalia is arguing what I myself have long argued when he said, "But I suppose there are hand-held rocket launchers that can bring down airplanes that will have to be -- it will have to be decided."

Exactly. One would assume that the original framers of the rigbht to bear arms admendment would not have included such hugely destructive (though "bearable," hand held weapons) in the right to bear arms.

Don't think they intended to allow sub machine guns or assault rifles either.

Scalia's more reasonable than the absolutist nutcases appearing here.

Genteel James said...

CAN HABEL BE CONFIRMED?
THREE ANSWERS:
President Obama will nominate former Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-NE) to be the next secretary of defense, but many predict a tough confirmation fight as he has vocal critics on both the left and the right.

Jon Karl: "Senate Democrats tell me there is no guarantee Hagel will win confirmation and that, as of right now, there are enough Democratic Senators with serious concerns about Hagel to put him below 50 votes. The bottom line: He may ultimately win confirmation, but not before a bloody fight in the Senate."

Mark Halperin: "If Hagel has a good confirmation sherpa and performs well in his courtesy calls and at his hearings, he will likely be confirmed. But/and at a pretty high cost. Expect a LOT of people to want to testify against him. And don't rule out a filibuster of this nomination, which would, obviously, change the math."

First Read: "What message would it send if Hagel -- a decorated war hero, a Vietnam vet, a two-term senator who served in office without scandal -- doesn't get confirmed?"

James said...

*HAGEL

Smirking James said...

Dem Birthers -- dey gwine impeach Justice Roberts.

De hell you say...

Smirking James said...

Here de proof:

http://www.nationalmemo.com/today-in-crazy-impeach-chief-justice-roberts-for-swearing-in-obama-say-birthers/

hb said...

Between Obamacare and swearing in the President they have a case for impeachment that would be Troother Approved♥.

Commonsense said...

Almost as nutty as those left-wing nuts that want to ignore the constitution and anoint Obama president for life.

A couple of them are right here on this blog.

Don't worry, with Obama jet-setting back and forth from Hawaii at 20 mil a pop while there are long lines at unemployment, he's already acting like Louie the XVI.

hb can count. Mensa boy, not so well. said...

You better not be stupid enough to start comparing vacation days.


Oops, too late.

KD, Gov MoonBeam is bewildered said...

Oops, too late. "

To late for what?


You need to read and understand what CS Wrote.


Higher taxes in CA are having an effect on the revenues to the State. I love when this kind of stuff happens and the Socialist look dumb founded.

Anonymous said...



the hagel pick is completely logical.

hagel hates jews.

dear leader hates jews.

there you have it.

- rrb


hb points out racist hypcrisy by rat said...

rrb, crawl back into the nest.

That was especially ripe for someone who tosses around terms like beaners, mooselimbs and rag heads.

KD, SS is going broke said...

Percentage Of Americans With Stock Hits Eleven-Year Low, Gallup Says "

Good thing the stock market continues to go up and leave them further behind.

I blame obama tax hikes.

Anonymous said...

"Obama doesn't get to appoint an unqualified person simply because he's a crony."

indeed.

the pentagon has a budget (at least for now) of $665B and 3M employees; both military and civilian.

he's not even remotely qualified. except for the jew-hatred of course.


- rrb

KD, Middle Class Taxed to death said...

Does anyone have the 2012 Holiday Sales numbers?

I believe they grew at least 5 - 6 percent.

KD, two jew haters said...

Hagel: “Let the Jews Pay for it”

give Obama his pick, let it fly by.

He is hand in glove with Obama's views.

KD, Obama pick payment to OWS said...

This was the pick for payment to OWS and their anti-semantic views.


CS with the grand slam hit.

"Hagel's hostility towards Israel perfectly reflect administration policy.

8:57 AM"

KD, ObamaCare drives up costs 3 K said...

HalfJane, did you know that being married with an income is punished under ObamaCare.

See I continue to take the charge that Nanci Polosi gave us upon the passage of this POS, read it and find out what is in it.


" Marriage Penalties

The new premium assistance program penalizes married couples. For instance, if two people each earn $30,000 annually, on their own, they would be judged to have incomes at about 300 percent of the FPL. But if that couple were to marry, their combined income would total $60,000, or about 500 percent of the FPL for a household with two people."

Why does it matter, well, it matters because Obamacare was going to Save us all $2,500 per policy a year, so far it has delivered.

Wait, no, it has delivered a rise of $3,000 per family plan.

hb laughs:-P said...

Brainless k"putz cries out. Notice me! Please!!

KD, Middle Class Taxed to death said...

A three to four percent increase in consumer spending was expected this year. Instead sales grew by less than one percent. That’s just pennies compared to 2011, which saw a four to five percent increase."


So 2012 sales numbers are in and they sucked. I was sure that the Socialist told us that Obamanomics is gaining steam and is on a roll.

IF only the Socialist could read economic data and understand it. But, what can i expect of those that only hold High School Diploma.

We could ask the Socialist ZerO-information voter how taking out of the hands of every worker an average of $1300 a year is going to grow the Economy, but, IF we did that they will morph into crickets, again as Whatta proved.

Commonsense said...

CURL: Obama supporters shocked, angry at new tax increases

“What happened that my Social Security withholding’s in my paycheck just went up?” a poster wrote on the liberal site DemocraticUnderground.com. “My paycheck just went down by an amount that I don’t feel comfortable with. I guarantee this decrease is gonna’ hurt me more than the increase in income taxes will hurt those making over 400 grand. What happened?”
Shocker. Democrats who supported the president’s re-election just had NO idea that his steadfast pledge to raise taxes meant that he was really going to raise taxes. They thought he planned to just hit those filthy “1 percenters,” you know, the ones who earned fortunes through their inventiveness and hard work. They thought the free ride would continue forever.


As Iowahawk tweeted; "Before the election, they were useful fools; now they are just fools."

KD, Middle Class Taxed to death said...

U.S. holiday retail sales this year were the weakest since 2008, when the nation was in a deep recession...."

How does a tax hike that takes out on average $100 a month out of each purse and wallet of the working person help the US Economy grow?

Surely, the Zero-information voter knows.

Anonymous said...

Almost as nutty as the left"

H.J.Res. 15: Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to repeal the twenty-second article of amendment"

" amendment, thereby removing the limitation on the number of terms an individual may serve as President."

whatta said...

"""How does a tax hike that takes out on average $100 a month out of each purse and wallet of the working person help the US Economy grow?"""

I heard this AM that Washington state is implementing...on "green" cars...a $100 tax!!! On electric cars!!!

Why?, you ask.

Cuz they are losing revenue they were expecting on gasoline sales state tax income.

Libruhls...tax and spend, again and again. Idiots.

Anonymous said...

Morons on parade forget that people try and repeal the 22nd amendment all the time. Google it. They were seriously trying in the Reagan years. And putting him on Mt Rushmore. ♥

KD, Middle Class Taxed to death said...

I have seen that the left wants to tax Gasoline more to off set the gains in per vehicle MPG.

WTF kind of sick twisted retards think higher MPG should result in higher taxation to the Federal Government.

I can't wait until Obama approves the Keystone Pipeline, pouring oil over the heads of the greenies that voted for him and against the free flow of Oil.

KD, Middle Class Taxed to death said...

http://www.caltax.org/research/calrank.html


Look at all the things CA is leading the Nation in, higher taxes, more poverty .

whatta said...

"""I have seen that the left wants to tax Gasoline more to off set the gains in per vehicle MPG.
WTF kind of sick twisted retards think higher MPG should result in higher taxation to the Federal Government."""

At which time, and already talked about and in development, will be a Miles Driven Tax!!!

Electronics in your car to tell zerO etal how far you went and how much YOU OWE THEM!

Keep your guns or the tyrrants will try and take it all!!!

Liberty and freedom from oppression - something liberals do not understand.

KD, good news more taxes for Res of CA said...

Looks like Sanfran CA is all over this GPS driven miles driven tax.

I say let's give CA the green light to tax there first and see how it works out.

Freaking idiots, never, ever is there enough money to feed the Socialist mind when it comes to taxing the middle/low income workers.

KD, Middle Class Taxed to death said...

What I’ve said in reducing our deficits — we can make sure that we cut 2.5 dollars for every dollar of increased revenue,” Obama said.

He increased revenues by 6 Trillion dollars over the next 10 years, so when do we see his cuts , on paper and on the table?


Justified James said...

OBAMA THE CLEAR WINNING IN THE FISCAL CLIFF FIGHT
According to a new Pew Research survey, Obama is viewed as the clear political winner in the fiscal cliff negotiations, 57% to 20%.
_____________
Pretty good odds.

Peacenik James said...

MORE ABOUT THE HAGEL NOMINATION:
WHY IT IS A BIG DEAL:
Peter Beinhart: "What makes Hagel so important, and so THREATENING to the Republican foreign-policy elite, is that he is one of the few prominent Republican-aligned politicians and commentators (George Will and Francis Fukuyama are others, but such voices are rare) who was intellectually CHANGED by Iraq. And Hagel was changed, in large measure, because he bore within him intellectual (and physical) scar tissue from Vietnam.... the Iraq War sparked something visceral in Hagel, as the former Vietnam rifleman realized that, once again, DETACHED AND SELF-INTERESTED ELITES were SENDING WORKING-CLASS KIDS like himself to die in a war they couldn't honestly defend."

Andrew Sullivan: "To my mind, this is his core qualification. Unlike so many of the lemmings and partisans of Washington DC, Hagel actually called out the catastrophe of the Iraq War as it happened. The neocons cannot forgive him for exposing what they wrought on the nation and the world."

Wonk Wire: Hagel would give Obama policy cover.

KD, Middle Class Taxed to death said...

God Damn you are one stupid bitch Jane.

Surprised James said...

I can't believe Rick Perry is seriously considering whether to consider another run for Prez. After "oops" and after that unbelievable press conference where he so narcisistically preened and looked so foolish -- how could anyone ever take him seriously?
Oh. Wait. We're talking about the GOP here.

KD, Torture is in style said...

Brennan last year got caughtoutright lying when he claimed Obama’s drone program caused no civilian deaths in Pakistan over the prior year. He also spouted complete though highly influential falsehoods to the world in the immediate aftermath of the Osama bin Laden killing, including claiming that bin Laden “engaged in a firefight” with Navy SEALS and had “used his wife as a human shield”. Brennan has also been in charge of many of Obama’s most controversial and radical policies, including “signature strikes” in Yemen – targeting people without even knowing who they are – and generally seizing the power to determine who will be marked for execution without any due process, oversight or transparency.

So, a lying, torture endorsing executioner who expressly believes that spying on the American people and detention without trial are sound government policies.

Who better to run the CIA?"


The left is getting ran over, again.

hb does not ♥ k'putz said...

James, nice work. k'putz is resorting to whining. Notice me, please!

♥ me, I matter, I really do!

KD, Hillary is back to work said...

Damn you're one stupid bitch Jane.

Commonsense said...

They were seriously trying in the Reagan years. And putting him on Mt Rushmore.

Didn't find any stories about putting Reagan on Mt. Rushmore but I did find this little ditty:

UPDATED: National Park Service Moves Ahead With Plans to Put Obama on Mt. Rushmore!

Since it's from the Great Orange Cheeto it must be true. Right halfbrain? :)

KD, Middle Class Taxed to death said...

“If we go back to the rates we had under Bill Clinton, we can close the deficit stabilize the economy, and keep taxes on the middle class low,” Obama said.

Well, you raised the rates, did nothing on deficit reduction and increased the tax rates on all workers under $112,ooo.

All in all you suck.

Chortling James said...

Nobody noticin' dat KD dude.
An' dat jest drivin' 'im up de wall.

KD, Middle Class Taxed to death said...

I see Janes , man HB came in to rescue his bitch, love is so cute.


Taxes soar in CA.


I love that story, yet, revenues are far behind the wild eye projections of HB and other idiots Socialist like Gov. MoonBeam.

Moon stated that if he did not get his tax increases on the middle/lower income earners that he would have to cut services, well, freak, you got your tax increase. But, not the revenue, go figure.

HB, voted in favor of more taxes on all middle/low income earners in his state.

Fact

KD, SS is going broke said...

KRUGMAN URGES: MINT THE COIN"

Lead story on Huffington Post the voice of the left.


I love watching the left destroy this country. It is picking up speed and will not be stopped. The Socialist won, the conservatives lost and with it, voices like this queer Krugman and others on the left are being heard more often.

So things that first sound wierd are if repeated become normal.

Look at unemployment, under Bush the Economy was failing when unemployment reached 7.8 percent.


With the correct lies, under the little feckless ONE 7.8 is fine, the private sector is in fine shop, no problem at all.

dumb-f-ck said...


Hagel's hostility towards Israel perfectly reflect administration policy."

Horseshit sense. He is the head of DOD, not foreign policy. He will carry out BHO's policy and respect the Armed Forces to ensure they get what they need. Why are righties so dumb when it comes to things as simple as this. Up or down vote, that's all that is needed.

dumb-f-ck said...

Obama doesn't get to appoint an unqualified person simply because he's a crony."

Hey numb nuts, how is Hagel less qualified than Harriet.....LOL you fool.

Commonsense said...

Delusional, racist James said...
Nobody noticin' dat KD dude.
An' dat jest drivin' 'im up de wall.


Na, he's winning since you can't respond to his arguments with anything other than your racist minstrel dialect.

Bet you do pine for the days of minstrel shows and black people who knew their place.

Just out of curiosity pastor, do you burn crosses at the end of your services?

Wouldn't be a bit surprised if you did.

dumb-f-ck said...


Don't worry, with Obama jet-setting back and forth from Hawaii at 20 mil "

How many trips to Texas, sense???? What was that cost???? LOL at you again.

dumb-f-ck said...


That was especially ripe for someone who tosses around terms like beaners, mooselimbs and rag heads."

Good call HB...RRB is the consummate republican randian jag off. Don't get much worse than that.

dumb-f-ck said...

Obama supporters shocked, angry at new tax increases"

Washington Times....the source of Sense's science of GW....LOL....Yep, I'd use that source for a reputable site.

Chuckle.

KD, Middle Class Taxed to death said...

USA lacks jobs.

mensa boy said...

Sarcasm. Look it up.

KD, freaks of Liberalism said...

The 2011 Heart of Green Award Winner

Matt Damon, i love this story, he preaches conserving energy, he is against US Oil and then the good part this typical fucking lying pos of liberalism, he owns two huge homes, a private jet, gas guzzlers and all kinds of gas burning toys.


SO what is his pandering movie about, stopping the USA from getting more of our own oil.

Commonsense said...

Horseshit sense. He is the head of DOD, not foreign policy.

If you really think there's no relationship between defense, national security, and foreign policy then you're a lot stupider than I ever gave you credit for.

Commonsense said...

How many trips to Texas, sense???? What was that cost????

Considerably less than Michelle's jaunt to Spain with her daughters and 19 of her closest friends (donors).

Anti KKK James said...

The church I serve has members who are Democrats, members who are Republicans, and at least one Independent.
None of whom burn crosses... :-)

Commonsense said...

KKK James said...

The church I serve has members who are Democrats, members who are Republicans, and at least one Independent.
None of whom burn crosses.


But the question was whether it was you yourself who burn crosses.

And from you evasive reply, the answer is yes.

Commonsense said...

*your

James the Just said...

Yeah, Commensa, every Sunday after service I go out and burn a cross and all the Republicans, Democrats, and the one Independent -- they all applaud??????

These people know I support Obama. They also know I was always an opponent of Klanism.

In my first church in NC, somebody used to throw a Klan paper onto the parsonage's front lawn. I read it and laughed.

The Klan never intimidated me.

KD, KKK James burns crosses said...

Jane , your a pussy in every sense of the word.

Commonsense said...

Alabama covered the point spread on the first two possessions.

Looks like a rout.

caliphate4evr said...

Just remane the crystal trophy. The SEC v any all comers

whatta said...

"""Looks like a rout. """

*yawn*....already switched over to a waaaaay behind PGA tourney...LOL.

This letter, purported to be in the Waco paper, is making the rounds...very sensible:

"PUT ME IN CHARGE . . .

Put me in charge of food stamps. I’d get rid of Lone Star cards; no cash for Ding Dongs or Ho Ho’s, just money for 50-pound bags of rice and beans, blocks of cheese and all the powdered milk you can haul away. If you want steak and frozen pizza, then get a job.

Put me in charge of Medicaid. The first thing I’d do is to get women Norplant birth control implants or tubal ligations. Then, we’ll test recipients for drugs, alcohol, and nicotine. If you want to reproduce or use drugs, alcohol, or smoke, then get a job.
Put me in charge of government housing. Ever live in a military barracks? You will maintain our property in a clean and good state of repair. Your home” will be subject to inspections anytime and possessions will be inventoried. If you want a plasma TV or Xbox 360, then get a job and your own place.

In addition, you will either present a check stub from a job each week or you will report to a “government” job. It may be cleaning the roadways of trash, painting and repairing public housing, whatever we find for you. We will sell your 22 inch rims and low profile tires and your blasting stereo and speakers and put that money toward the “common good..”

Before you write that I’ve violated someone’s rights, realize that all of the above is voluntary. If you want our money, accept our rules. Before you say that this would be “demeaning” and ruin their “self esteem,” consider that it wasn’t that long ago that taking someone else’s money for doing absolutely nothing was demeaning and lowered self esteem.

If we are expected to pay for other people’s mistakes we should at least attempt to make them learn from their bad choices. The current system rewards them for continuing to make bad choices.

AND While you are on Gov’t subsistence, you no longer can VOTE! Yes, that is correct. For you to vote would be a conflict of interest. You will voluntarily remove yourself from voting while you are receiving a Gov’t welfare check. If you want to vote, then get a job."

...liberal heads X-plode

caliphate4evr said...

SEC...SEC...SEC...SEC...SEC...SEC...SEC...SEC...SEC...

hb does not♥ national socialists. said...

Whatta sounds like a member of the new National Socialist Party.

dumb-f-ck said...

hen you're a lot stupider than I ever gave you credit for.
"

LOL...you give no one credit for anything, so why would anyone be surprised that the POTUS runs the show. Is that a new concept for you? That his cabinet carries out all his wishes???? This ain't Cheney, sense, wake up.

Chuckle

dumb-f-ck said...

Considerably less than Michelle's jaunt to Spain with her daughters and 19 of her closest friends (donors).
"

Your stupidity continues unabated! LOL at your attempt of emulating the kansan who has thankfully disappeared. Maybe you should emulate her.

Chuckle

With a knee slapping laugh James said...

6:59 KD, why can you not finally LEARN something and write "you're" instead of "your" when you mean "you are"?

Looks like all the rednecks are not in the South.

Calm, cool James said...

Want to see why Boehner and the GOP are in such very deep doo doo over against a continually winning Obama?

Go to politicalwire.com and inform yourselves.

Warning. You won't enjoy it.

KD, the Bush Tax Victory said...

When the Bush Era Tax cuts rates became the law of the land for the foreseeable future for almost all Americans the left had to have that OH SHIT moment.

But do they have the intellectual honesty to admit they did have said moment?

KD, Middle Class Taxed to death said...

Look you stupid sissy boy, i do it control you. HB is your TOP.

your a fucking freak.

Nodding with approval James said...

RE 8:18:
FOR EXAMPLE, Obama has your side against the ropes, as follows:
______________

OBAMA'S "IN YOUR FACE" SECOND TERM
Frank Wilkinson says the nomination of former Sen. Chuck Hagel as defense secretary "represents both an affront to Republicans, who have never honestly reckoned with the disasters of George W. Bush's foreign policy, and to Democrats, who have spent decades crafting foreign policy designed in part to avoid inciting aggression not from abroad, but from Republicans."

"Obama may or may not believe Hagel is the best person for the job. But he certainly is mindful of the CHALLENGE he has just laid down. Unless opponents can restrict the debate on Hagel to his views -- real or imagined -- on Israel, THEY RISK LITIGATING THE DISASTROUS POLICIES that Hagel REJECTED and his most vociferous critics EMBRACED."

"An oddly similar battle awaits on the debt ceiling. Obama says that, unlike 2011, he will not negotiate on the debt ceiling. To hold that line, he will have to explain -- repeatedly -- that spending is initiated in the House and passed by Congress. In other words, the battle presents an opportunity TO STICK REPUBLICANS WITH THEIR SHARE OF BLAME FOR THE DEFICIT, a reckoning they have evaded as assiduously as the one on Iraq and Afghanistan."
_______________
IOW, outflanked again by Obama.

Grinning James said...

The Kansan redneck says,
"Yore a f'n freak."

KD, Middle Class Taxed to death said...

Obama supporters shocked, angry at new tax increases."


The zerO-info voter is always surprised by "unexpected" news.


Take the Chevy Volt, production plant was re-tooled at tax payers expense to buy a car that is on par with the Pontiac Fero as a huge failure. The Volt plant can produce 40 K cars a year, sales are only half that many, losing money on each and ever car.

We the middle/lower income are being used.

KD, Obamabots hate the Deal he made said...

OMG, this is so good. I have read three articles on two different left wing web sites that are crying and whining about being sold out on the tax deal zerO wrote and Ried/Polosy got passed.


They are saying they got blindsided and that the newly re-elected Prez showed great weakness in caving.

They warn the ONE not to cut any spending on Socialist Programs, namely not a dime from:

WIC
SNAP
SS
Medicare and Medicaid

So with those off the table and those all in the deepest of red ink, it looks like the projected 27 Trillion National Debt by the end of 2016 needs to be revised upward.

Repeatedly vindicated James said...

OBAMA has the GOP over a barrell.
And both Boehner and McConnell well know it.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2013/01/07/republicans-getting-weak-kneed-about-debt-ceiling-fight/

KD, IRS to Issue Rules said...



The news coming out of the Penned Obama/Ried/Polosey law is not favorable to the low/middle income worker.


Higher rates on income, taking on average 1300 dollars out of all workers pocket books or wallet is going to cause them to have less to buy things with going , well, you know FORWARD.

2 percent less to buy the $1.12 cent per gallon higher gasoline then just four years ago.

2 percent less for food and clothes and to save.

The new law is great for the top earners, here is why.

The top income earners now know how bad it will be for the next four years and can change contracts and push earning down the road. They can and will and have had meetings with their Lawyers and CPA"s.

There are going to be some interesting restructuring of "reported" income and some more even more interesting "push" income contracts.

IRS is busy issuing a host of new rules and directives to said lawyers and CPA's.

KD, Obama owes us $2.5 dollars in cuts for every $1 in new spending said...

http://politicalwire.com


Do you post there too janey and IF so what is your moniker.

I saw that they hate Jews and Israel just like you do.

James who loves Israel and American Jews who vote Democratic said...

Breaking with standard procedure for a high profile nominee, Hagel gave an interview with the Lincoln Journal Star to defend his "unequivocal, total support for Israel"

KD, still jobless recovery continues said...

"Let the Jews Pay for it" Hagel


Look this is fun, he should get confirmed, so should that other guy, the torture supporter.


The problem are not these guys.

The problem is that the Economy was in full crash mode under Bush with unemployment at the top of 7.8 percent.

And now the "private sector is fine" at 7.8 percent unemployment.

KD, Socialist are Funnnnnyyyyyy said...

When did the Democrats decide that to get more money out of payroll checks it is ok to savage those in the firm middle income and lower?

whatta said...

"""Socialist are Funnnnnyyyyyy """

IU don't know if i'd go with funny, but, fvcked up is appropriate, and highly hypocritical (still awaiting answers to previous questions)

But...in todays "funny" hypocrisy, out of France...their Finance Minister in charge of fighting tax fraud is...guess what...?

Yes, is himself a tax cheat.

Proving for the jillionth time, liberals love to spend only OTHERS money on their Utopian dreams. Asshats.

KD, Socialist are Funnnnnyyyyyy said...

French Budget Minister Jerome Cahuzac "

Hell CS Whatta just have this dude move into the Position Little Timmy Tax Cheat is leaving and FORWARD we go.
I have to continue to Congradulate you on posting that question that still has the funny socialist here stumped.

James said he never saw it, even when it has been re-posted many times. HB admitted he is unable to due to lack of education to answer the question.

Anonymous said...

The medieval concept of offsetting your sins through public penance is back in play: The more loudly you talk about helping the proverbial people, the more you are allowed to live quite apart from them without guilt. Do not expect a garbage collector, in the fashion of the anti–Mitt Romney ad, to make a video complaining that the Obamas never ventured outside their coastal compound to compliment him on his work or just to chitchat. Al Gore’s lamentations for the polar bear allows him to try to finagle a $9 million tax savings. The money for Media Matters apparently offsets the fact that the speculations of a conniving George Soros once almost bankrupted the British small depositor and earned him an insider-trading conviction in France. Each speech blasting the uncaring Bush tax cuts translates into a hundred thousand less in taxes to be paid on your yacht.

Sensible hb said...

re: The Hagel nomination. What really bugs most Republicans is that his selection pretty much tosses the neo-conservative foreign policy of the Bush administration onto the trash heap of history. Given the long list of failures of that plan and their desire to bomb bomb bomb anything that moves, it's a damn fine idea.

Hagel isn't an anti-Semite. He does not hate gays. He IS a pro-life, rational Republican. A rarity these days, with the tea party at it's peak. They have already sewn the seeds of their own destruction but that's another post.

Hagel will be confirmed, the whack job teatards will look like the idiots they are.

He will oversee the necessary downsizing of the Pentagon and defense spending. And the bottom line is, he will implement the policies of the President. He will not be afraid to express differences with the President. And he may of may not prevail in those discussions, but that is how things work.

Hell, his biggest problem will probably be figuring out how to get the massive bureaucracy of the Pentagon to implement the changes. And of course, the Republican congresscritters who are in districts where these cuts will hurt the local economies. That always amuses me because the idiot Republicans who are against gubmint spending as a waste of time love gubmint spending when it's done on redundant, unnecessary weapons systems.

Anonymous said...

"Hagel will be confirmed, the whack job teatards will look like the idiots they are."

and the celebrating in tehran will continue.

- rrb

hb tells the truth said...

I have to say Alex Jones didn't do himself any favors last night on Piers Morgan's show. Calling Great Britain a military dictatorship was especially amusing.

And the stuff coming out of the White House on the Biden gun control initiative has the whacks spitting all over themselves.

hb tells truth to teatards said...

And the teatards like rrb will continue to fuel the decline of what was once a Grand Old Party. But has now turned into a bunch of crazy racists, gun nuts and elderly white males.

KD, Sheriff Joe said...

the stuff coming out of the White House on the Biden gun control initiative " HB

What are the key components that he has published?

Thanks

KD, Get CA off the Nipple said...

States with a majority of No-info voters would be hurt the most by defense cuts.


Topping the List

California
Federal contract spending $32,842,383,000
Department of Defense spending $24,078,267,000

Hell yes I agree with HB cut the shit out of it.

Sherman Style

KD, Get CA off the Nipple said...

http://www.pbs.org/now/politics/defensemap.html

take a look for yourself, this is from PBS NOW programing

KD, Obummer promised no gun grab said...

"When you all go home and you're talking to your buddies and you say, ah 'He wants to take my gun away.' You've heard it here, I'm on television so everybody knows it. I believe in the Second Amendment. I believe in people's lawful right to bear arms. I will not take your shotgun away. I will not take your rifle away. I won't take your handgun away." The One

He lied, so what, he won, now comes the gun grabbing.

whatta said...

"""He lied, so what, he won, now comes the gun grabbing.""""


and what the dingdongs of the left ALWAYS fail to grasp is that government and loss of freedoms is not a one-and-done issue. It is a steady erosion of liberties and freedoms with each new law.

This "gun grab" probably won't be for shotguns and rifles, but it will be one step closer to the time they come after those as well.

...chip...chip...chip...chip...they keep taking away from us, as we let them for "safety".

Bush had it right - THEY hate our freedom, but "they" are the criminals running our country.

Anonymous said...

not only do liberals regularly wet their beds, they actually shit their pants when they go to the white house.

- rrb

KD, CA is the biggest suck said...

I take great and complete pleasure in showing the facts to the no-information voter on defense spending and that the number one state in sucking that teat is CA.

I await the day that idiot from CA looks up the facts first then post.

In 11 years he has not done so , i doubt he begins.

KD, CA pro-gun State said...

California assembly member Nancy Skinner answered that call with a proposal to restrict ammunition sales in the state.

“2,800 people in California were killed last year by gunfire," Skinner said. "It is easier to buy bullets than cough medicine or alcohol. It should not be that easy. "

Really, who knew, the law in Kansas is more restrictive then CA.


caliphate4evr said...

What if China decided to seize Air Force 1

Argentina has hired a private jet for President Cristina Kirchner’s trip to Asia and the Middle East later this month due to the risk that creditors might try to seize her official aircraft. The chartered plane will cost $880,000 for the weeklong trip, or about 20% more than it would cost to travel in Tango 01

Anonymous said...

old and busted:

liberal's incessant whining about the bullshit birther claims against dear leader.

new hotness:

liberals coming out with their own bullshit birther claims about ted cruz.

- rrb

KD, RRB a Proud Moment in Public Education said...

Karen Lewis, the president of the Chicago Teachers Union..... advocating the killing of the wealthy in the USA.

She also gave her reason, in her own words:

"“The key is that they think nothing of killing us,” Lewis added

Honest James said...

***James said he never saw it, even when it has been re-posted many times***

No, I said I didn't know what it was. I may have seen it, but paid it so little regard, I forgot what it was.

I still don't know. And don't care.

KD, Middle income earners hit again said...

What a fucking sissy bitch you are Jane, you are a perfect no-information voter.

No need to learn a thing you selfish twerp .

It would be a shocking event if any no-information voter actual debated the merits of Obama policies and the effect on the US Middle/lower income worker.

So to dumb it down to below no-information voter level.


Taking more money out of the hands of those making less then 112k a year is a very bad idea, one the no-information voter did not expect to happen and yet, it did.

Each worker bee is going to have to some how make ends met with $1000 less dollars.

Proud Dem Jim said...

GALLUP TODAY
+54% OBAMA JOB APPROVAL
VS
-39% DISAPPROVAL
_________________

CONGRESS' job approval now stands at +9%

________________

TEA PARTY FADES
A new Rasmussen survey finds views of the Tea Party movement are at their lowest point ever, with just 8% saying they are members of the Tea Party, down from a high of 24% in April 2010 just after passage of the national health care law.
___________

"Unfortunately when the Republican party needs to be a big tent party it seems to me we are doing everything we can to become a pup tent party."
-- Virginia Lt. Gov. Bill Bolling (R), quoted by WTVR-TV.

KD, retail sales plummet said...

There are less people working today then four years ago.

Jobs are still in very short supply and with the higher taxes on 100 % of those still lucky enough to have a job, things just got financially tighter.

The pledge that Obama gave of no increase in taxes on the middle income and low income, it was a noble pledge and one easily shattered.

First week of Jan 13' saw a plummeting in retail sales. (unexpectedly so)

KD, retail sales plummet said...

There are less people working today then four years ago.

Jobs are still in very short supply and with the higher taxes on 100 % of those still lucky enough to have a job, things just got financially tighter.

The pledge that Obama gave of no increase in taxes on the middle income and low income, it was a noble pledge and one easily shattered.

First week of Jan 13' saw a plummeting in retail sales. (unexpectedly so)

Advanced degrees holding James said...

Obama got a high score among well to excellently educated voters.
Sorta hard to see how they were no info voters.

MA, MDiv James said...

The ten best educated* states
in the country voted for Obama.
Nine of the ten worst educated* states
voted for Romney.

No info voters, eh?
__________________
*as measured by the percentage of residents over age 25 with bachelor degrees

dumb-f-ck said...

CONGRESS' job approval now stands at +9%"

The clap has better ratings.

kdense said...

I love AIG!

Barack Obama said...

Birthers never quit.

http://mobile.wnd.com/2013/01/did-cia-pick-sanitize-obamas-passport-records/

caliphate4evr said...

More inadvertent consequences


Wendy’s, Taco Bell franchises are latest to cut employee hours, blaming Obamacare

KD, Middle income earners hit again said...

In 2013 the middle and lower income families will have to find a way to cut spending at home by 114 Billion Dollars.

Socialist are just fine with private middle and lower income families doing without, after all, "they can afford it".

Or is this US just putting even more "skin in the game" or and I love this one from the socialist here "it is part of living in Omerica"

Thanks nO-information voters, when middle income and lower income families have to do with less you find that perfectly acceptable but when the government is talked about as doing with less of those two groups money you all go crazy bat shit and throw a baby fit.

Commonsense said...

Obama got a high score among well to excellently educated voters.

Proving one again that there's no correlation between intelligence and education.

From time to time you would see some of those "excellently educated" voters being interview. Half of them couldn't tell you who George Washington was.

Commonsense said...

*once

KD, Calling out the nO-info posters said...

James, you moron.

Since you and your TOP Hb are so bright and informed (not) why is it both of you avoid economic questions based on policy of your chosen ONE.

Like, can you or your TOP tell us the down side to Obamanomics of taking 1/2 trillion dollars out of the hands of the middle and lower income worker over the next four years?

KD, Middle income earners hit again said...

Obama did best with those without or only a HS diploma.

KD, Socialism requires collective stupidity said...

Anonymous hb said...

The President should be able to choose who he wants."

What a freak HB is,,,,, he did pick whom he wanted, he picked a torture proponent and a openly hostile jew hater.

You rubber stamped both picks, good little sheeple.

James The Douchenozzle said...

"Like, can you or your TOP tell us the down side to Obamanomics of taking 1/2 trillion dollars out of the hands of the middle and lower income worker over the next four years?"

There is no downside, only more freeshit for me! I am the only one that matters, that is why I skim the collection plate every Sunday. One Dollar for them, two Dollars for me!

KD, Obamacare 256 Billion in savings said...

256.2 million -- The number of Americans who were insured in 2012" this is private insurance policies only, it does not include those on the public doles.

So with that number in mind and the revisiting of the Obama health Care Promise we will do this by the paint by numbers set in hopes that the Zer0-info voter can keep up. (I'll even drop the .2 so that those slow slop heads can attempt to wrap their alcohol and or drug twisted minds around what they voted for and was sure would come to pass). So as to be overly generous let's say each policy covers 2.5 people the on average family in Omercia.

102,400,000 Private Policies
$2,500 savings that was OPromised

Today we should be seeing a
$256,000,000,000 yearly savings, that is yearly boys and girls.

Of course the savings has not been seen, but , just the reverse.




Liberal, Progressive, Happy James said...


OH NO! THE LIBRULS ARE A-COMIN'!

Liberals Pledge to Remake American Politics
Mother Jones reports that a month after President Obama won reelection, "top brass from three dozen of the most powerful groups in liberal politics met at the headquarters of the National Education Association, a few blocks north of the White House."

"At the end of the day, many of the attendees closed with a pledge of money and staff resources to build a national, coordinated campaign around three goals:
getting big money out of politics,
expanding the voting rolls while fighting voter ID laws,
and rewriting Senate rules to curb the use of the filibuster to block legislation.
The groups in attendance pledged a total of millions of dollars and dozens of organizers to form a united front on these issues--potentially, a coalition of a kind rarely seen in liberal politics, where squabbling is common and a stay-in-your-lane attitude often prevails."
_______________
Sounds like the Chariot's a-comin' too!

Triumphant James said...

Democrats Re-Establish Lead in Party Affiliation
A new Gallup survey finds "an average of 47% of Americans identified as Democrats or said they were independents who leaned Democratic in 2012, compared with 42% who identified as or leaned Republican. That re-establishes a Democratic edge in party affiliation after the two parties were essentially tied in 2010 and 2011."
_____________________
This will continue as the GOP keeps being obstructionist about everything concerning Obama and the President continues to educate the nation to the fact that being American and being Democratic are just two different ways of saying the same thing.

See my following post.

Consequent James said...

WHY PRESIDENT OBAMA IS PICKING FIGHTS WITH CONGRESS

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/01/lessons-learned-potus-takes-fights-to-congress-85935_Page4.html

One reason is that he has lost all respect for his GOP opposition, as have a majority of Americans. (Not to metion a Congressional approval record of 9% in the basement.)

Approving James said...

Obama picks Jack Lew for Treasury...

hb snickers said...

I do see some irony in a group of people pledging money to take the money out of politics. Not saying it should not be done but it is funny if you think about it.

hb snickers said...

It would be difficult to respect a party run by people, that in large part are representative of thinking like a troother. Science denying, social troglodytes that believe the state owns a woman's body from the moment of conception. People who believe that a vote for a Democrat means he or she wants to be a ward of the state. And truth be told, a significant minority of them do not like people of color and that Obama is not a legitimate President. Hell, Jim Corsi of the world nut daily believes the man chosen to run the CIA helped cover up problems that throw doubt on Obama's birth certificate. It is wild eyed views like that still have credibility in the GOP make it difficult to take them seriously.

KD, treasury cheat said...

Jerome Cahuzac is pissed off he was not named by the ONE to head Treasury.

KD, No Objections to LEW said...

Citi paid Lew $1.1 million for his year at Alternative Investments, according to an ethics disclosure report filed in January 2009. He was also eligible for an undisclosed bonus."

Lew is a wonderful choice, he is in the top .001 of all earners in the USA. He is WHITE and he has a strong Republican background.

I see Obama is going to the Republicans to save his ass, again.

KD, more white Multi-millionaires said...

During his 2010 confirmation hearing before the Senate Budget Committee, Lew told the panel that he did not believe Wall Street deregulation played a major part in the financial crisis. He said he doesn't "personally know the extent to which deregulation drove it, but I don't believe that deregulation was the proximate cause."

He is spot on.

He will fly thru confirmation.

KD, NEA sued by US Justice Dept said...

expanding the voting rolls while fighting voter ID laws"

HUH, it is the law of that land that allows the people to vote, so they are pledging to work against voting laws.

And this is shit you can't make up:

"National Education Association"

Not one of them thinks logically, but they do know how to attack the US Constitution relentlessly so they are happy anti-Americans.

KD, the coming gun grab said...

The Left are going to ban guns and force registration of ALL guns, no matter the make, design, caliber, age or value.

This is becoming clear, just a couple of questions, will the banning of some guns mean that those in the hands of private citizen have to be turned in and WHEN those people that own those guns refuse and we will, what Federal arm of Government be charged to forcible take them?

Dearest friends on the left, you have thought this thru and we know you have the answers, no need to hide come out and show your true RED colors.

Anonymous said...

"People who believe that a vote for a Democrat means he or she wants to be a ward of the state."

oh, so that's why dear leader's minions went to all the trouble of creating "julia" - a ward of the state from cradle to grave.

got it.

- rrb

dumb-f-ck said...

Wendy’s, Taco Bell franchises are latest to cut employee hours, blaming Obamacare"

Additional companies putting profits before employees. Figures the salesman would side with the profit motive....LOL at you, again.

dumb-f-ck said...

What if China decided to seize Air Force 1"

And what if the Wizard gave you a brain,

KD, Opium how much were the taxes on your 6 Billion said...

Is this the year we all see our privately paid for Health Insurance Policies drop as Obama promised?

That would save the nation $256,000,000,000 yearly .

That is IF the promise was kept.


But like middle income tax hikes and gun grabs, Obumble stumbles and the left just continues to take it up their collective Socialist arses.

KD, Middle income earners hit again said...

Obama is taking over 110 Billion in profits paid to middle income and lesser earners this year in taxes.

That will only go up over the following 3 years for a low estimated total of just under a half Trillion.


Gov't puts taxes ahead of families providing for themselves.

hb warns the troothers. said...

I wish I could post a picture. Drudge has a picture of Hitler and Stalin, claiming Obama is going to impose a dictatorship on the US!

Keep it up kids. keep this up.. please. Unless you find a way to moderate your party, you won't hold real power for a generation, at least.

KD, Zero Gun law changes said...

Good to hear that Obama has Zero plans to restrict gun ownership.


Thanks for clearing that up HB.

Good to have you here, you are the voice of reason on gun control.

KD, 6.5 Billion in Obama Cuts said...

US House of Representative is not real power.

You learn the cuties things when you read HalfBraindead.

dumb-f-ck said...

Proving one again that there's no correlation between intelligence and education."

You would be the prime example of that corollary, sense.

Chuckle

KD, six year from now 6.5 unmployment said...

if the participation rate remains the same at 63.6 percent, and the economy adds 150,000 jobs a month, then it will take about 6.5 years to reach the magic 6.5 percent unemployment rate.

If the participation rate drops further, which some economists predict, then that date could be sooner. At a 63.2 rate, unemployment could hit the Fed's metric near the end of next year. But if a rebounding economy brings people back into the work force, and the participation rate rises, but these people don't find work immediately, then the arrival of 6.5-percent unemployment rate will be pushed ahead. For example, if the participation rate climbs back to where it was just last year - 64.2 - it would take 16 years of monthly job growth at 150,000 per month to get down to 6.5 percent unemployment. Of course, higher monthly job growth in the range of 200,000 or 300,000 a month would dramatically shorten the time to get the unemployment down into the Fed's range for action on its interest rate."

So what we need is even more welfare and more socialism and we will get lower unemployment rates, well the nO-info voters are all in.

Law abiding James said...

Biden: Obama Might Use Executive Order to Deal With Guns

James said...

"The president is going to act. There are executives orders, there's executive action that can be taken. We haven't decided what that is yet."
-- Vice President Biden, quoted by CNN, in comments before a meeting with victims of gun violence.
____________________
Dat President Obama, he gettin' tough.
All ober de place, he gettin' tough.
He mean business...

KD, Obama Promised said...

Well, that order will have to be in line with this promise.

"When you all go home and you're talking to your buddies and you say, ah 'He wants to take my gun away.' You've heard it here, I'm on television so everybody knows it. I believe in the Second Amendment. I believe in people's lawful right to bear arms. I will not take your shotgun away. I will not take your rifle away. I won't take your handgun away." Obama


He set the standard, he re-assured us gun owners, so hold him to his promise.


KD, 6.5 Billion in Obama Cuts said...

About the debt ceiling, he should be held to this standard too, and about 50 others that the ZerO-information voters just turn their collectivist heads and cough.


"The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure." Obama, 2006

Commonsense said...

Cross burning, KKK James said:

Dat President Obama, he gettin' tough.
All ober de place, he gettin' tough.
He mean business...


Some people would call it subverting the Constitution he's sworn to protect and defend.

And that's a high crime or misdemeanor even without the racist minstrel dialog.

whatta said...

zerO would have civil war on his hands if he Executive Orders much of anything on gun control. And regarding the second amendment...

"Since the Second Amendment did not create or grant any right concerning firearms, the right enumerated in the Amendment has to be an existing right separate from the Amendment. Thus, repealing the Second Amendment would not eliminate any right because the right enumerated in the Amendment was not created by the Amendment. The right to keep and bear arms exists independent of the Constitution or the Second Amendment."

whatta said...

A most delightful article on the flaming hypocrisy known as algore...how everything he touches turns to total shit, yet he's made over 100 million. Yikes, the idiots definitely run the asylum in the USA.

hb enjoys this said...

But it would be a mistake to attribute all of Obama’s actions to dispassionate tactics. After four-plus years of embittered partisan combat, he views his GOP bargaining partners with more than a little contempt, and he momentarily vanquished enemies who just can’t say “yes” to him.

His apparent conclusion, after watching the implosion of the House GOP’s effort to pass a modest tax increase before the final fiscal cliff deal, is that the best way to deal with the Capitol is to throw rocks at it — then send Vice President Joe Biden in to clean up the glass.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/01/lessons-learned-potus-takes-fights-to-congress-85935.html#ixzz2HWzlOZzM

whatta said...

this is for...well, you know who you are;

“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.”

- Carl Sagan

hb said...

Oh Geez. There you go again.

ODS has taken away all reasoning abilities from whatta.

So sad.

KD, Nice Link Whatta said...

AlGore was against Big Oil but not against Big Oil Profits when those profits are pumped his way.

I am sure he is donating this money to buy land to protect the planet.

Only last time i check he barely own more land then my front pasture.

I am more green then that fake.

KD, Middle income earners hit again said...

After four-plus years of embittered partisan combat"

LOL, what a stupid fuck.


Hit that big RED do over button idiot.

caliphate4evr said...

With the possible exception of a few anarchist cells, nobody questions the need for environmental regulation—or the EPA’s authority to enforce environmental laws. But those objecting to the agency’s abuses—Bulova, Ginsberg, The Washington Post, Judge Jackson—are hardly anarchists. They aren’t even Republicans. That ought to ring warning bells; this isn’t just a partisan vendetta. The EPA’s long train of abuses and usurpations suggests an institutional culture that sees the law as an impediment, rather than a guardrail. It also offers a reminder that those who wield power tend to push the boundaries of their authority. They will succeed, too—unless others push back.

http://reason.com/archives/2013/01/09/the-epa-pushes-the-envelope-again

KD, VOLT no ROI ever said...

Wondering how those "flex fuel" govt mandated vehicles are working out for the US Motoring public, well, like most all tampering with the economy , they lost billions in dollars .

The VOLT is a disaster economically and for the US Tax payers.

You green whinnies , Obama should have to write the checks to the US Treasury for the losses on that vehicle.

you know, put his skin in his game.

KD, zerO accountability said...

I believe in people's lawful right to bear arms. I will not take your shotgun away. I will not take your rifle away. I won't take your handgun away." Obama

He will stand by that heartfelt promise , right?

Will the left hold him accountable to any of his promises.


Like when he said "not a single dime" in higher taxation of the middle and lower income workers?


Nope, they just bend a little further over, add a little more anal lube and smile .

ZerO-information voters

Without comment, James said...

A priest in Springfield, IL has gotten himself tied up in quite a mess. Father Tom Donovan of the St. Aloysius church on Springfield's north end called 911 from the rectory when he found himself unable to undo a pair of handcuffs and a gag. "I'm going to need help getting out before this becomes a medical emergency," Donovan told a dispatcher during the Nov. 28 call.

When the dispatcher asks for more information, Donovan offered up this explanation: "(I was) playing with them and I need help getting out." Since the call, there has been no explanation for how Donovan was able to gag and cuff himself.

Donovan's voice sounds garbled on tape of the call (hear the full audio from Donovan's 911 call below) and when police arrived, they found Donovan in some sort of gag. Donovan has since taken a leave from the church, something he was granted from Bishop Thomas J. Paprocki, who is the leader of the Springfield diocese.

Paprocki made headlines last Thursday when he testified against Illinois' gay marriage bill. He also once stated that voting for Democrats, "makes you morally complicit and places the eternal salvation of your own soul in serious jeopardy." No word yet on how handcuffing and gagging yourself alone in a church for God knows what reason impacts your morals, soul and eternal salvation.

You can hear Donovan's full conversation with the confused dispatcher below.

Re 7:19PM James in blackface said...

Dat Obama. He de man.

unexpectedly said...

The number of people who filed for unemployment assistance in the U.S. rose unexpectedly, while the previous week’s figure was revised down, official data showed on Thursday.

In a report, the U.S. Department of Labor said the number of individuals filing for initial jobless benefits in the week ending January 5 rose by 4,000 to a seasonally adjusted 371,000, compared to expectations for a decline of 2,000 to 365,000

Surprised James said...

I'm delighted to see that Whatta has so high a regard for Carl Sagan. I suppose Whatta agrees with everything Sagan stood for (see Wiki article).

Unexpectedly said...

Obama's job approval rating in the fifties for 2013.
Gallup 1/6 - 1/8 2013
+56% APPROVAL
vs.
-39% disapproval
a +17 DIFFERENCE

Rasmussen Reports 1/6 - 1/8 2013
+53% JOB APPROVAL
vs
-45% DISAPPROVAL
a +8 DIFFERENCE

hb said...

Gays, guns and God.

Does not work anymore kids.

KD, waiting for an honest Socialist to debate Obama policy said...

Obama corruption at WORK, with the failure of Chysler and GM Obama bailout known, the at least 49 Billion dollars already lost and the promise was,,, ROI, well that is never going to happen, no matter how the Socialist spin it.

The best thing to do is HIRE Toyota to pull the space shuttle and to buy even more GM vehicles using GOA.

Priceless

KD, Socialist stop positn about me said...

Defining the terms is a requirement when talking to a Socialist.

Taking 1/2 a trillion out of the hands of those that earn it thru working is a very bad idea.

But one the Socialist here endorsed.

Best estimates have US EU style economy of Obamanomics not getting the unemployment rate down to a staggeringly high 6.5 percent until he is two years out of office.

Think about that best estimates will have Obama leaving office in 2017 with unemployment still 2.5 percent above normal unemployment.

New Normal is endorced by ZerO-info voters, daily.

KD, the Jobless Claims numbers + said...

unexpectedly said...


Just keep repeating mindlessly the montra of the Obama-Cultist,,,

The private sector is fine
The private job market is fine
The Government is the answer
The Government can never do with less of the working class income


Now you too can be a ZerO-info voter.

Film critic James said...

PREDICTION: The film "Zero Dark Thirty" will do Obama more good than harm, despite its much criticized use of torture in interrogations and despite the fact that the President only appears once it it briefly.

hb said...

James, where do you think k'putz gets his 'facts'? I think they come from an odorous orifice.

They sure do stink.

KD, waiting for an honest Socialist to debate Obama policy said...

Unemployment thru the Blunder 2nd Term to remain above 6.5 percent.

Federal Reserve Projection and target rate before they feel safe to stop pumping 85 Billion a month into the housing market.

Can you imagine knowingly buying near-worthless mortgages and foreclosed land/Homes knowing that the ROI is going to be a net negative.

No need to imagine it is Federal Govt Policy of Obama.

GM bailout only under water 39 billion and still climbing.

KD, waiting for an honest Socialist to debate Obama policy said...

if the participation rate climbs back to where it was just last year — 64.2 — it would take 16 years of monthly job growth at 150,000 per month to get down to 6.5 percent unemployment."

Well , then there is the other way to lower the unemployment rate and it has been working, take people and give them Federal Pay Checks in the form of welfare/SSI and other direct payments.

KD, sub 6 percent unemployment 2018 said...

OMB
Federal Reserve

and my favorite place is the White House site.

The amount of quotes from the Obimbo are priceless.

His prediction of sub 6 percent unemployment and halving the national debt in just a few days from now are the best pulp fiction on the web.

Remember all the promises made in 2007 and 2008. Because i do and he is an economic failure.

In his new term he will inherent a far worse then when he took over in 2009.

The ZerO-information voter will refuse to see it. They have for four years, blame other for his failures, it is the Socialist way.

hb enjoys this said...

Dodge Momentum Index Rebounds in December
January 8, 2012 - New York, NY

The Dodge Momentum Index rose 3.2% in December, according to McGraw-Hill Construction, a division of The McGraw-Hill Companies. The Momentum Index is a monthly measure of the first (or initial) report for nonresidential building projects in planning, which have been shown to lead construction spending for nonresidential buildings by a full year. The December gain brought the Momentum Index to 94.9 (2000=100), up from November’s revised 91.9. After showing a hesitant upward trend during the first seven month of 2012, the Momentum Index settled back from August through October, and then stabilized in November. This coincided with the economic and political uncertainty that dampened investment during that time. The December rebound for the Momentum Index brings it back close to the 95.4 reached in July, which was the highest reading reported during 2012. The latest month’s upturn may also be the initial sign that the uncertainty that restrained plans for construction is now easing, with the November 2012 elections now final and the fiscal cliff being averted for the time being.

December’s increase for the Momentum Index was due entirely to a pickup by its commercial building segment, which advanced an impressive 9.0% relative to November. New plans for stores and office buildings were stronger in December, and several notable warehouse developments also bolstered the Index, including plans for two new Amazon distribution facilities in Dupont WA and Fort Worth TX. In contrast, the institutional building segment of the Momentum Index dropped 2.4% in December, weighed down by a reduction in the number of new hospitals entering the planning phase. The retreat for the institutional building segment is likely to continue for a while longer, given expected cutbacks in federal spending and state budget constraints.

KD, Middle income earners hit again said...

The Dodge Momentum Index"


Really, what is next the VOLT index, omg can you get any lamer.

I thought you had hit bottom and yet you keep digging, your shovel ready Rodger.

hb enjoys this said...

Retired Gen. Stanley McChrystal came out in favor of gun control restrictions in a Tuesday morning appearance on MSNBC's "Morning Joe."

"I spent a career carrying typically either a M16, and later a M4 carbine," he said. "And a M4 carbine fires a .223 caliber round, which is 5.56 millimeters, at about 3,000 feet per second. When it hits a human body, the effects are devastating. It's designed to do that. That's what our soldiers ought to carry."

Said McChrystal, "I personally don't think there's any need for that kind of weaponry on the streets and particularly around the schools in America. I believe that we've got to take a serious look -- I understand everybody's desire to have whatever they want -- but we have to protect our children and our police and we have to protect our population. And I think we have to take a very mature look at that."

Troothers think he is another Hitler/Stalin clone.

h/t Huffpost.

KD,waitng for any honest Socialist said...

Roger the DODGER

from your index

2009 = 175
2010 = 95
2011 = 75

today is as 94.9 .

Looking at institutional building it shows a drop, no need to apologize I always enjoy our errors in judgement and data streams, never telling the truth and cherry picking some data and excluding other. But, as i have learned with you and your butt-buddies always look the data up myself.

You do love to cherry pick, move to MI they need the labor.

Smash that big RED do over button again their HalfJane and give the full data .

hb shovels shit out of the blog said...

The Dodge Report is used throughout the construction industry to track trends and a lot more.

Stupid farmer.

KD, Obama gun grab on hold, for now said...

White House Drives over then backs over Biden, repeatedly.


nO-Information voters weep.

No executive orders on guns, for now.

Yes, Obama lied as sure as the sun rose and taxes have gone up on every payroll employee making less then 114 k a year.

His firm PROMISE to ALL GUN OWNERS :
"When you all go home and you're talking to your buddies and you say, ah 'He wants to take my gun away.' You've heard it here, I'm on television so everybody knows it. I believe in the Second Amendment. I believe in people's lawful right to bear arms. I will not take your shotgun away. I will not take your rifle away. I won't take your handgun away." The One

He lied, so what, he won, now comes the gun grabbing...

next

KD, GM lost 39 Billion said...

The McGraw-Hill Companies, Inc.
NYSE: MHP

Share price down in trading, down over a dollar since Jan 1, 2013, stated trouble, the Profit to Earning Ratio is out of balance.

KD, stimuless spent jobs not booked said...

I looked it up, i looked at the "trending data" for all four years of this disaster of Obimbo's.

he only has to recover 75 points to get back to even for his term as the president, the question is, with out spending an additional 3 Trillion in stimulus on all kinds of failed programs, does he make it back to even?

Time will tell, but for now he is in the "private sector is fine" area of constructions 500 billion or so in the RED for his 1st term.

Hope we get the promised Jobs , some day.


whatta said...

""" a .223 caliber round, which is 5.56 millimeters, at about 3,000 feet per second. When it hits a human body, the effects are devastating. It's designed to do that. That's what our soldiers ought to carry."""

hb creams his leg.

.223 makes a good varmint (coyote) round. There are good uses for the gun.

If you are so goddamned worried about people getting shot with a .223....why are you not shouting about the Government - The Obama Government - buying hollow point ammo for civilian departments? No...target practice and guarding the local office don't cut it...THOSE are bullets meant to kill other people.

When only the government has guns, high capacity clips, auto weaponry, tyranny will have arrived.

You assclowns would cheer the day.

caliphate4evr said...

Liberalism, as always, harms the ones they claim to champion

Johnna Davis has worked at the Taco Bell in Guthrie since September. She's seen a 200 dollar cut in her paycheck since a new store policy went into effect.

"What we were being told was one thing, and that was, ‘we're going to offer benefits, we'll just keep all of our full time employees and then come December, their whole story changed," Johnna Davis said.

She says her manager held a meeting before Christmas, saying employees' hours would be cut in the new year.

"They informed everybody that nobody was considered full-time any longer, that everybody was now considered part-time, and [they] would be cutting hours back to 28 hours or less due to Obamacare," Davis said.

Under the Affordable Care Act, companies are required to provide insurance to its full-time employees, or face fines. Davis would've qualified for an insurance plan.

"Several of the other people I work with, some of them are single parents, and we do the best we can, and 28 hours a week just isn't going to cut it for the bills," Davis said.

Now this single mother of 3 is looking for a new full-time job. Nearly 20 employees their have seen their hours cut.

KD, Obamacare 256 Billion in savings said...

While the index now predicts an upturn in construction sometime next year, its steady decline throughout 2011 and the first quarter of 2012 suggests that there will be continued stress in the industry in the short-term future." Roger Dodger Index

The data was all there, and yet you always get it so very wrong.

Nice to see you try, fail and continue to be very trying.

Anonymous said...

Someone finally has done all the math on the recent sale of Al Gore's Current TV to the Arabic language channel Al-Jazeera for $500 million. Jobs were lost, buzz created, employees angered, but the former vice president had little to say about it. He did walk away with a reported $100 million — a tidy sum for a man who had less that $2 million in assets when he ran for president more than a dozen years ago, says Forbes magazine.
"Taking into account taxes to be paid on the deal, possible earlier debt and the fact that Gore's representatives declined to comment, Forbes conservatively estimates the former vice president's net worth to be at least $300 million, making him wealthier than unsuccessful Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney," says Ryan Mac, a Forbes analyst.
"Last May, Forbes estimated Romney's net worth to be around $230 million," he adds.
Mr. Gore founded Current TV with much ado six years ago, and he even anchored its presidential election coverage last fall. But apparently, news and public affairs are no longer his calling. Now 64, Mr. Gore remains a board member of Apple, a senior adviser on "green issues" for Google and chairman of Generation Investment Management, a firm dedicated to an "investment philosophy that integrates sustainability research with rigorous fundamental equity analysis," according to its website. He continues to complain about global warming issues.
"How does Gore sleep at night? He's an empty hack. At this point I'd say, Al, go seek absolution from Oprah," talk radio host Dennis Miller told Fox News.
Mr. Gore's sale of Current TV to Al-Jazeera, which is based in Qatar, was "selling out to big oil," Mr. Miller added.


- rrb

whatta said...

"""Johnna Davis has worked at the Taco Bell in Guthrie since September. She's seen a 200 dollar cut in her paycheck since a new store policy went into effect."""


But at least she is having to pay HIGHER taxes now that Obama's victorious Cliff Deal is signed!!

She should intentioanlly fvck up on the job and hope to get let go...just draw eternal unemployment and other government freeshit. It's easier and better than working anyway.

whatta said...

hey rat...Current TV just lost 12.5 million viewers...


Time Warner Cable cut 'em loose:

“Our agreement with Current has been terminated and will no longer be carrying the service. We are removing the service as quickly as possible.”

Suppose aljizz or algore care about that?

caliphate4evr said...

She should intentioanlly fvck up on the job and hope to get let go...just draw eternal unemployment and other government freeshit. It's easier and better than working anyway.

or maybe figure a way to 'throw out' her back so she can join SSI's growing ranks of 'disabled'....

KD, Obumber reOfines Rich, anyone with earned income said...

In fact, 60 percent of respondents with a high school diploma or less think the tax legislation will hurt them .... Dizzy Kos HB poster

that would be 60 percent right, because it hurt 100 percent of those that earn a paycheck still.

But the Kos nO-information voter are not very bright.

I am shocked that 60 percent know they got hose by Obama breaking his now increase taxes on the middle and lower income earner and taxes only go up on the rich.

Defining terms when debating a socialist, Obimbo just re0fined those with any earned income at all as "rich".

Because he promised only to increase taxes on the rich.

Done.

KD, Nancy P write 1 million dollar check to US Treasury said...

RRB

Because Algore is a fake green guy his $$$$$$$$$$$$$ is the right kind of wealth.

KD, all those nice tax breaks said...

President George W. Bush signed the Mortgage Forgiveness Debt Relief Act into law in 2007 to help homeowners whose debt exceeded the market value of their house. Prior to that, having a portion of a mortgage forgiven was considered taxable income.

The tax break was scheduled to expire in the new year, but has been extended through 2013. The Congressional Budget ."

Bush understood real people.


Thanks to W, Obama had no choice but extend this and many other tax breaks to the workers of America.

KD, classic Jane being wrong again said...

James payroll tax fold

from: james-new-leaf [Member]
Reid isn't caving on this. Obama isn't caving on this. The Dems aren't caving on this."


this is classic,,, and yet they did and thru the worker under the obamaExpress bus.

Anonymous said...

"hey rat...Current TV just lost 12.5 million viewers...


Time Warner Cable cut 'em loose:"

yeah, i'm a twc subscriber. it was nice to see the al-gorezeera/al-quaeda channel go dark the other night.

- rrb

dumb-f-ck said...

The EPA’s long train of abuses and usurpations suggests an institutional culture that sees the law as an impediment, rather than a guardrail. It "

What a load of bull shit. Your bias is just too stupid for words, let alone legitimate discourse. Talk about dwarfism.....that describes your brain. cali, on UGA intellect

KD, Biden is a moron said...

universal background checks, including private sales." Biden


Impossible.


Say i want to sell a gun to my next door neighbor and he wants to pay me in hay, we agree and no one is ever the wiser. Exactly what Federal Agency is going to be able to learn of this private transaction.

dumb-f-ck said...

.223 makes a good varmint (coyote) round."

In a single shot, bolt action, scoped weapon. Not in an AR, dumbass. My 6 MM remington with a 60 grain bullet and compressed load shoots close to 4,000 fpm. The Bushnell 3x8 scope brings the it all up close.

hb knows guns. said...

Whatta I have forgotten more about guns than you ever knew. The .223 round isn't the issue, idiot. It is the weapon that is the issue. You fucking moron.

dumb-f-ck said...

hey rat...Current TV just lost 12.5 million viewers.."

Seems Faux has lost even more....Gotta love it.

dumb-f-ck said...

Hey UGA genius....Latest FDU has Christie up by 40 Points.....I hope that stat upsets you in some perverse way.

dumb-f-ck said...

r maybe figure a way to 'throw out' her back so she can join SSI's growing ranks of 'disabled'...."


Wonder if there are benefits for the mentally disabled like you???????

KD, Obamacare 256 Billion in savings said...

"When you all go home and you're talking to your buddies and you say, ah 'He wants to take my gun away.' You've heard it here, I'm on television so everybody knows it. I believe in the Second Amendment. I believe in people's lawful right to bear arms. I will not take your shotgun away. I will not take your rifle away. I won't take your handgun away." The One

KD, Middle income earners hit again said...

And the deficit is coming down at a rapid rate.” HB 11/27/12 @ 06:43

Really, what nation is that happening in, because it sure the hell in not OBamaNation

hb can count said...

Look it up moron. The deficit has been coming down for some time.

In pure numbers, the greatest decline in history.

But that's too much for your miniscule "mind".

hb can count said...

http://www.creditwritedowns.com/2012/11/chart-of-the-day-us-deficit-reduction-2009-2012.html

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